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Roth or Tax-Deferred Contributions: It Depends on Existing Balances!

Quick housekeeping note: I’m taking some time off for the holidays, so there will be no article next week. So on that note, Happy Holidays and Happy New Year to each of you, and thanks for reading!

Today’s article was inspired by a few recent online discussions (and one article) I encountered during open enrollment season, all of which made the same mistake when discussing what type of retirement account to contribute to each year. Specifically, they did not speak at all to the question of what the household’s retirement account balances already look like. It’s such a simple point, but it’s often left out.

People almost always ask about current income level, which is relevant. But we need to know more than that.

Example: Beth and Brian are married filing jointly, in the 24% tax bracket. Most of their income this year is in the form of W-2 wages.

Tim and Tiffany are also married filing jointly, in the 24% tax bracket. Most of their income this year is in the form of W-2 wages. In fact, everything about their income and deductions for this year is identical to Beth and Brian.

But Beth and Brian are age 60. They’ve been maxing out their tax-deferred accounts for 30 years. They’ve had a mostly-stock allocation this whole time, and now they have about $3.5 million in tax-deferred accounts.

Tim and Tiffany, on the other hand, are age 35. They’ve been making Roth 401(k) contributions and Roth IRA (or backdoor Roth IRA) contributions through their whole careers so far. They have a considerable amount of Roth savings and literally nothing in tax-deferred accounts.

Both households are in the 24% bracket, so they’d each get the same amount of tax savings this year from making deductible/pre-tax 401(k) contributions. But Beth and Brian, with their large tax-deferred balance, are already going to have a significant amount of taxable income in retirement, which makes Roth savings start to look better. Tim and Tiffany, on the other hand, will have almost no taxable income in retirement if they continue along their Roth-only path. At some point (perhaps now) it makes sense to start making tax-deferred contributions, so they have income to “use up” their low tax brackets in retirement.

Every decision should be made “at the margin.” When deciding whether to contribute to Roth or tax-deferred accounts, what we want to know is: if you make this contribution as tax-deferred, what would be the tax rate that you’d pay on these dollars and the associated growth when they come out of the account later. All else being equal, the more money you already have in tax-deferred accounts (and, to a lesser extent, in taxable accounts), the higher that tax rate will likely be — and the more sense it makes for this contribution to be made as Roth.

Investing Blog Roundup: Vanguard’s New Target Retirement Lifetime Income Funds

Vanguard recently released a new line of target-date funds: the Vanguard Target Retirement Lifetime Income funds. The new series of funds will only be available in employer-sponsored defined contribution plans (e.g., 401(k), 403(b), etc.).

What’s different about them, relative to the existing Vanguard Target Retirement Funds, is that beginning at age 55, they’ll begin allocating a portion of the portfolio to the TIAA Secure Income Account, a deferred annuity. And that deferred annuity can later be “annuitized” (i.e., exchanging the balance for a lifetime income stream like a pension).

There’s nothing new about the ability to annuitize some or all of the balance of an employer-sponsored plan. It’s long been possible to roll a 401(k), or a portion of such, into an individual retirement annuity (a.k.a. IRA annuity). But:

  1. Most people don’t know that’s an option.
  2. And even if you know it’s an option and might be interested, it’s still a hassle.

And most of the people who use target-date funds are those who either a) may be somewhat less informed than others or b) simply want a low-hassle option. In other words, among this group of people, the number who would buy such an annuity on their own is probably vanishingly small, even if such a product would actually be very appealing to them.

So it will be interesting to see: when people are given a much more accessible option to annuitize their savings, how many of them take that option?

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Investing and Tax Planning Come Last

When I meet somebody new and they hear what I do for a living, if they ask any questions those questions are almost always about tax or investing.

I’d estimate that 90% or more of the discussion on the Bogleheads forum is about investing and tax planning. Ditto for most personal finance discussions I see elsewhere online.

When it comes to financial planning, people really want to talk about investing and tax planning. And I understand why. Thinking that you’ll be able to increase your investment returns or save on taxes feels good.

But investing and tax planning are, respectively, the second-lowest and lowest priority in the realm of financial planning. In an ideal scenario, digging heavily into those topics should come last, after everything else is in order.

Insurance, estate planning, and cash flow planning come first. (I would encourage anybody to read the Basic Financial Planning Checklist I created a few years ago.)

When working with a new financial planning client, it’s common that they’ll show up with a slice-and-dice asset allocation that presumably a great deal of thought went into — but they have no idea how much they’re spending per year.

Or they can deliver a whole thesis off the top of their head about modern portfolio theory, the efficient market hypothesis, and multi-factor models — but they are woefully underinsured with respect to life or disability coverage.

Or they’ve spent an enormous amount of time researching Roth conversion planning — but they don’t have a will or other basic estate planning documents in place.

Every once in a while, somebody shows up with a portfolio of just target date funds — but they know how much they spend each year, they have all of the necessary types of insurance coverage, they have their estate plan already in place and recently updated. That’s the person who gets the gold star. From the financial planner’s perspective, it’s a huge sigh of relief when you see that person.

Hiring a financial planner to ask whether you should have a small-cap/value tilt to your portfolio is like setting an appointment with your primary care physician, so that you can ask her whether she thinks you should switch your standard Saturday morning breakfast from scrambled eggs with spinach to an omelette with tomato and mushrooms. There are a hundred other health questions that should come first. And if you truly have all of those other questions answered and squared away already, then the answer to this question is, “Either is just fine. You’re all set. Go happily live your life.”

Investing Blog Roundup: Northwestern Mutual Recruits Sold a “Dream Job.” Reality Was Very Different.

On financial blogs, forums, reddit and so on, a common discussion topic is the problematic nature of financial advisory professionals being paid a commission. It creates a tremendous conflict of interest.

Less frequently discussed is the fact that many such firms are taking advantage of the advisors themselves. A significant portion of the people in that position are very recent college grads. The firm tells the potential recruit that they’ll be a respected professional, caring for their clients, and likely earning a very good income. All three promises are likely untrue, but the recruits are simply too young and too inexperienced to know any better. (I didn’t know any better. At age 21 I fell for the same pitch from Edward Jones, though quickly came to realize all was not as they’d indicated.)

Last week The Guardian published an excellent article by Niamh Rowe discussing the way young people are taken advantage of by Northwestern Mutual. I think it’s important to talk about this side of things as well. If more young people knew the realities of these jobs, fewer young people would have such inauspicious starts to their careers, and fewer people would get sold whole life policies and annuities that are entirely inappropriate for them.

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